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Admiral · **Posted:** Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:19 pm

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While I do like this idea as well, we now have canon (thru Force Unleashed)

Computer games are not Canon - they are Apocrypha.

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we also have canon thru some of the EU novels

Expanded Universe novels are not Canon either, they vary between Apocrypha and Official.

Canon consists of:
Six motion pictures.
Six motion picture novelisations.
Three Radio Adaptions.
Anything that George Lucas has said personally.

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It seems that once the empire started upgrading to the larger capitol ships we went from a "dry dock"-shipyard like construction, to a "space station" like construction.

It makes a lot more sense to build anything fairly large in space, even if they can then land. Working in zero gravity makes almost every stage of construction easier. I'd argue that every capital ship is constructed in this fashion, the benefits are immense.

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Though while I would still love to see something like the Executor land, I would probably bet some money that it never saw atmosphere (assuming that it was lost in the destruction of the second death star).

Why would you have to assume that? We see it exploding when it hits the surface, it is very definitely destroyed.

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I would venture to say that with a ship as large as the Executor, the curvature of the planet it is intending on landing on would come into play as well as openspace large enough to allow it to land.

OK, we'll assume it lands on earth, and that it lands somewhere where the ground is of even altitude.
The earth is 24,000 km in circumference, therefore over the 17 kilometers of the ship's length, describes .25 degrees. With a radius of 3,819.728 kilometers simple trigonometry indicates that there would be a difference of 20 meters between the nose and tail, and the mid point. That's sixty six feet, or a total of a 0.1% variation over the total length.

Now, I could be wrong, but to me, that's nothing at all. Accomodating such a teeny variation would be perfectly easy for landing gear.

Pox · **Joined:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:33 am **Posts:** 9

Admiral wrote:

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Canon consists of:
Six motion pictures.
Six motion picture novelisations.
Three Radio Adaptions.
Anything that George Lucas has said personally.

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You wouldn't include the Clone Wars animated TV series?

Admiral · **Posted:** Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:33 am

This isn't something I have decided, this is how Lucasfilm define things. So, no, the Clone Wars cartoons are not Canon, they are Official.

Diji Spiritstalker · **Joined:** Fri May 22, 2009 7:25 am **Posts:** 46

Admiral wrote:

Computer games are not Canon - they are Apocrypha.

Admiral wrote:

Expanded Universe novels are not Canon either, they vary between Apocrypha and Official.

I agree with you about the computer game part... most anything takes a degree of liberty when adapting to a computer game. Though I dont classify Force Unleashed as a computer game as with the launch of the game came a novel and graphic novel... all (including the game) were approved by Lucas prior to publish. Lucas Arts AND Lucas Film (as they both worked together to create the game) in fact went as far as to say the Force Unleashed story IS the next chapter within the Star Wars Saga... but I still consider it part of the Extended Universe. Which on that note I agree could be classified as shy of canon as there is very little criteria as to what goes and what doesnt go in the Extended Universe.

Admiral wrote:

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Though while I would still love to see something like the Executor land, I would probably bet some money that it never saw atmosphere (assuming that it was lost in the destruction of the second death star).

Why would you have to assume that? We see it exploding when it hits the surface, it is very definitely destroyed.

Yup, that, there is prime example of how I type before thinking... The original trilogy events are more like hazy memories for me as I dont see them as often as the prequel trilogy... Yes I have the DVDs, but I tend to watch TV more than my DVDs and lately, those older movies never make it to TV.

Admiral wrote:

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I would venture to say that with a ship as large as the Executor, the curvature of the planet it is intending on landing on would come into play as well as openspace large enough to allow it to land.

OK, we'll assume it lands on earth, and that it lands somewhere where the ground is of even altitude.
The earth is 24,000 km in circumference, therefore over the 17 kilometers of the ship's length, describes .25 degrees. With a radius of 3,819.728 kilometers simple trigonometry indicates that there would be a difference of 20 meters between the nose and tail, and the mid point. That's sixty six feet, or a total of a 0.1% variation over the total length.

Now, I could be wrong, but to me, that's nothing at all. Accomodating such a teeny variation would be perfectly easy for landing gear.

I see the logic in your math, and I agree, but this will only be the case on the larger planets in the system... in the case of a smaller moon or something, odd are it will never break atmosphere.

Anyhow, since this hysteria started with me, I suppose I can be the one to say that we have resolved the original question and this thread went WAY off topic, so I suppose it is time for it to end.

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